The Jeppesen CFI manual is $71. The ASA is $25. That's practically an hour
of flying time, but I'm a little disappointed with the ASA 2007 FAR/AIM.
For commercial pilots, for example, the ASA book's suggested reading
includes Part 121 but doesn't actually include it.

Does anybody know if the Jepp book is worth ~3x the ASA book or would I be
paying for a publisher's name?

Any other recommendations?

-c

On Jun 18, 12:08 pm, "Gatt" > wrote:
> The Jeppesen CFI manual is $71. The ASA is $25. That's practically an hour
> of flying time, but I'm a little disappointed with the ASA 2007 FAR/AIM.
> For commercial pilots, for example, the ASA book's suggested reading
> includes Part 121 but doesn't actually include it.
>
> Does anybody know if the Jepp book is worth ~3x the ASA book or would I be
> paying for a publisher's name?
>
> Any other recommendations?
>
> -c

Gatt
Check with your local library for text? Mine has pretty current stuff
and of course the fundamentals and techniques of instruction don't
change that much year to year.
But, now that our educational system is dumbing down and the FAA with
it, I guess you have to watch for the newest version of "Flight
Instruction for Dummies" ??
Ol S&B
Soaring Buzzard
World Infamous Pilot/Instructor
BTW
Have you ever checked eBay for bargains? They are abundant with
diligent and frequent searching.

"Ol Shy & Bashful" > wrote in message
oups.com...


> Have you ever checked eBay for bargains? They are abundant with
> diligent and frequent searching.

That's my next plan. Just drove down to Flightcraft at PDX. They closed
their pilot shop down, but I -did- get to watch a private T-36 start up and
depart so it was worth the lunch hour spent.

-c

Gatt wrote:
> That's my next plan. Just drove down to Flightcraft at PDX. They closed
> their pilot shop down, but I -did- get to watch a private T-36 start up and
> depart so it was worth the lunch hour spent.

What's a T-36?

"john smith" > wrote in message
...
> Gatt wrote:
>> That's my next plan. Just drove down to Flightcraft at PDX. They closed
>> their pilot shop down, but I -did- get to watch a private T-36 start up
>> and depart so it was worth the lunch hour spent.
>
> What's a T-36?

A flying typo. Should be T-38.

-c

"john smith" > wrote in message
...
>
> What's a T-36?
>

The Beechcraft T-36A was a twin-engine advanced trainer/light transport for
the USAF. But since the project was cancelled before the prototype flew I'd
say it's mention here is a typo.

Adding Part 121 would just about double the size of the FAR/AIM for the
benefit of a comparatively small number of purchasers. If there are any 121
questions on the CFI written, which I doubt (I took mine in 1968 so the
details are a little fuzzy), you could get them from the FAA web site.

When you get ready to take your ATP written, self-study is a disaster...find
a quickie school.

Bob Gardner

"Gatt" > wrote in message
...
>
> The Jeppesen CFI manual is $71. The ASA is $25. That's practically an
> hour of flying time, but I'm a little disappointed with the ASA 2007
> FAR/AIM.
> For commercial pilots, for example, the ASA book's suggested reading
> includes Part 121 but doesn't actually include it.
>
> Does anybody know if the Jepp book is worth ~3x the ASA book or would I be
> paying for a publisher's name?
>
> Any other recommendations?
>
> -c
>

("Gatt" wrote)
>> What's a T-36?

> A flying typo. Should be T-38.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beechcraft_Bonanza
A flying typo. Should be A36.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_B-36
A flying typo. Should be B-36.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-36_Electra
A flying typo. Should be C-36.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-36_Hawk
A flying typo. Should be P-36.

Hey, this is fun!


Paul-Mont

"Bob Gardner" > wrote in message
. ..
> Adding Part 121 would just about double the size of the FAR/AIM for the
> benefit of a comparatively small number of purchasers. If there are any
> 121 questions on the CFI written, which I doubt (I took mine in 1968 so
> the details are a little fuzzy), you could get them from the FAA web site.

Ah, that makes sense. Apparently, there's one section of 121 that is now
relevant, according to the Chief Flight Instructor: The tricky part is
where it says "each certificate holder". The Appendix isn't specific except
to refer to "Safety-sensitive functions." I dunno...I spent a lot of time
trying to figure it out for the Commercial oral exam (as advised) and the
first thing the examiner said is "I'm not going to drill you on Part 135,
121 and all that because if you go to work for a part 135 operator, it's all
in their manual and you'll be responsible for learning it then anyway."....

Sec. 121.457 - Testing for prohibited drugs.

(a) Each certificate holder or operator shall test each of its employees who
performs a function listed in appendix I to this part in accordance with
that appendix.

(b) No certificate holder or operator may use any contractor to perform a
function listed in appendix I to this part unless that contractor tests each
employee performing such a function for the certificate holder or operator
in accordance with that appendix.


APPENDIX I:

http://www.risingup.com/fars/info/part121-I-APPX.shtml

On 2007-06-18 12:45:16 -0700, Ol Shy & Bashful > said:

> On Jun 18, 12:08 pm, "Gatt" > wrote:
>> The Jeppesen CFI manual is $71. The ASA is $25. That's practically an hour
>> of flying time, but I'm a little disappointed with the ASA 2007 FAR/AIM.
>> For commercial pilots, for example, the ASA book's suggested reading
>> includes Part 121 but doesn't actually include it.
>>
>> Does anybody know if the Jepp book is worth ~3x the ASA book or would I be
>> paying for a publisher's name?
>>
>> Any other recommendations?
>>
>> -c
>
> Gatt
> Check with your local library for text? Mine has pretty current stuff
> and of course the fundamentals and techniques of instruction don't
> change that much year to year.
> But, now that our educational system is dumbing down and the FAA with
> it, I guess you have to watch for the newest version of "Flight
> Instruction for Dummies" ??
> Ol S&B
> Soaring Buzzard
> World Infamous Pilot/Instructor
> BTW
> Have you ever checked eBay for bargains? They are abundant with
> diligent and frequent searching.

I like the Jeppesen book for its thoroughness. I still refer to it
quite frequently. It was worth it to me. But to learn the minimum stuff
you need to pass the written and practical tests, just study one of the
practice exam books.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

For studying for the writtens the FAA book is good. To actually learn
something useful, try Kershner. His book is the best I know of and not
as pricey as Jeppesen's.

Helen

Gatt wrote:
> The Jeppesen CFI manual is $71. The ASA is $25. That's practically an hour
> of flying time, but I'm a little disappointed with the ASA 2007 FAR/AIM.
> For commercial pilots, for example, the ASA book's suggested reading
> includes Part 121 but doesn't actually include it.
>
> Does anybody know if the Jepp book is worth ~3x the ASA book or would I be
> paying for a publisher's name?
>
> Any other recommendations?
>
> -c
>
>

On Jun 18, 1:08 pm, "Gatt" > wrote:
> The Jeppesen CFI manual is $71. The ASA is $25. That's practically an hour
> of flying time, but I'm a little disappointed with the ASA 2007 FAR/AIM.

You may want to check out used books. A good place to search is
www.campusi.com
I did a quick search there and found several sources with used older
versions costing $8-$23 for Jeppesen CFI manual

Hai Longworth

On 2007-06-18 13:08:55 -0400, "Gatt" > said:

>
> The Jeppesen CFI manual is $71. The ASA is $25. That's practically an hour
> of flying time, but I'm a little disappointed with the ASA 2007 FAR/AIM.
> For commercial pilots, for example, the ASA book's suggested reading
> includes Part 121 but doesn't actually include it.
>
> Does anybody know if the Jepp book is worth ~3x the ASA book or would I be
> paying for a publisher's name?
>
> Any other recommendations?
>
> -c

If you can find a copy, I highly recommend Bill Kershner's "Flight
Instructor's Manual" third edition. Last cost I had on it was around 27
dollars.
I've used Kershner manuals throughout my tenure instructing and have
always found them to be accurate and fairly priced.
Dudley Henriques

On Jun 18, 10:16 pm, Dudley Henriques > wrote:
> On 2007-06-18 13:08:55 -0400, "Gatt" > said:
>
>
>
> > The Jeppesen CFI manual is $71. The ASA is $25. That's practically an hour
> > of flying time, but I'm a little disappointed with the ASA 2007 FAR/AIM.
> > For commercial pilots, for example, the ASA book's suggested reading
> > includes Part 121 but doesn't actually include it.
>
> > Does anybody know if the Jepp book is worth ~3x the ASA book or would I be
> > paying for a publisher's name?
>
> > Any other recommendations?
>
> > -c
>
> If you can find a copy, I highly recommend Bill Kershner's "Flight
> Instructor's Manual" third edition. Last cost I had on it was around 27
> dollars.
> I've used Kershner manuals throughout my tenure instructing and have
> always found them to be accurate and fairly priced.
> Dudley Henriques

Dudley
I'll second that. I began using the Kerschner manuals since about 1967
and still find info there that isn't in other books.
Cheers
Rocky

On 2007-06-19 06:44:13 -0400, Ol Shy & Bashful > said:

> On Jun 18, 10:16 pm, Dudley Henriques > wrote:
>> On 2007-06-18 13:08:55 -0400, "Gatt" > said:
>>
>>
>>
>>> The Jeppesen CFI manual is $71. The ASA is $25. That's practically an hour
>>> of flying time, but I'm a little disappointed with the ASA 2007 FAR/AIM.
>>> For commercial pilots, for example, the ASA book's suggested reading
>>> includes Part 121 but doesn't actually include it.
>>
>>> Does anybody know if the Jepp book is worth ~3x the ASA book or would I be
>>> paying for a publisher's name?
>>
>>> Any other recommendations?
>>
>>> -c
>>
>> If you can find a copy, I highly recommend Bill Kershner's "Flight
>> Instructor's Manual" third edition. Last cost I had on it was around 27
>> dollars.
>> I've used Kershner manuals throughout my tenure instructing and have
>> always found them to be accurate and fairly priced.
>> Dudley Henriques
>
> Dudley
> I'll second that. I began using the Kerschner manuals since about 1967
> and still find info there that isn't in other books.
> Cheers
> Rocky

Hi Rock;

I actually had to dig one out yesterday for a requested quote for a
source in another thread.
Still finding use for it after all these years :-)
Dudley

"Longworth" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> On Jun 18, 1:08 pm, "Gatt" > wrote:
>> The Jeppesen CFI manual is $71. The ASA is $25. That's practically an
>> hour
>> of flying time, but I'm a little disappointed with the ASA 2007 FAR/AIM.
>
> You may want to check out used books. A good place to search is
> www.campusi.com
> I did a quick search there and found several sources with used older
> versions costing $8-$23 for Jeppesen CFI manual

WOW! No kidding. I'm looking at the link now.

I'm ordering the Jeppesen AND Kershner. (Thanks, Helen)

-c

On 2007-06-18 20:16:40 -0700, Dudley Henriques > said:

> On 2007-06-18 13:08:55 -0400, "Gatt" > said:
>
>>
>> The Jeppesen CFI manual is $71. The ASA is $25. That's practically an hour
>> of flying time, but I'm a little disappointed with the ASA 2007 FAR/AIM.
>> For commercial pilots, for example, the ASA book's suggested reading
>> includes Part 121 but doesn't actually include it.
>>
>> Does anybody know if the Jepp book is worth ~3x the ASA book or would I be
>> paying for a publisher's name?
>>
>> Any other recommendations?
>>
>> -c
>
> If you can find a copy, I highly recommend Bill Kershner's "Flight
> Instructor's Manual" third edition. Last cost I had on it was around 27
> dollars.
> I've used Kershner manuals throughout my tenure instructing and have
> always found them to be accurate and fairly priced.
> Dudley Henriques

Well, I ain't giving up my copy.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor